CA: And if someone could convince you that we actually can make the -- what was it? -- the 130-fold improvement in efficiency, of reduction of carbon footprint, would you then actually like that picture of economic growth into more knowledge-based goods?
CA: A ukoliko bi vas netko mogao uvjeriti da mi zapravo možemo to ostvariti - koliko je bilo? povećanje za 130 puta u efikasnosti, smanjenja otiska ugljika, bi vam se tada zapravo sviđala slika ekonomskog rasta temeljena na dobrima baziranim na znanju?