ES: Well, when you look at the results of these programs in stopping terrorism, you will see that that's unfounded, and you don't have to take my word for it, because we've had the first open court, the first federal court that's reviewed this, outside the secrecy arrangement, called these programs Orwellian and likely unconstitutional.
ES: Kada pogledate rezultate tih programa u sprečavanju terorizma, vidjet ćete da je to neutemeljeno, i ne morate mi vjerovati, budući da smo imali prvo otvoreno suđenje. Prvi federalni sud koji je ovo preispitao, bez tajnih postupaka, nazvao je ove programe "orwellskim" i jamačno neustavnim.