(Applause) John Hockenberry: So it sounds to me like what you're saying is that there may be some temptation on the part of people to look at your work and go -- I think I've heard this, in my kind of pop psychological understanding of play, that somehow, the way animals and humans deal with play, is that it's some sort of rehearsal for adult activity.
John Hockenberry:  To što pričate zvuči mi kao da ljudi mogu doći u iskušenje i u osvrtu na vaš rad reći: Prema mom popularno-znanstvenom razumijevanju igre, na neki način, to kako ljudi i životinje  postupaju u igri, neka je vrsta pripreme za aktivnost odraslih.”